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	<title>Comments on: 8-bits of Processing Goodness</title>
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		<title>By: Bret Kuhns</title>
		<link>http://www.bretkuhns.com/blog/2010/01/8-bits-of-processing-goodness/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret Kuhns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, they&#039;re fairly similar platforms, PIC being the older &quot;tried and true&quot; option, but there&#039;s a lot of community and buzz around AVR including (and possibly thanks to) the Arduino. The full bells and whistle Arduino boards usually over $30, but that&#039;s for quick and dirty prototyping. Less convenient options are available that drastically reduce the price if that&#039;s a concern for you.

I never explicitly disabled it... I just unchecked the option to require logins to post comments. If you know how to enable both, let me know how (I&#039;m pretty new to Wordpress) and I&#039;ll set it up.

Custom PCB&#039;s aren&#039;t that expensive if you look in the right places. www.batchpcb.com will do it for $2.50 per square inch but have a lengthy wait time. www.expresspcb.com is $51 for three boards, and have a much faster turnaround. For a single prototype, that&#039;s not horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, they&#8217;re fairly similar platforms, PIC being the older &#8220;tried and true&#8221; option, but there&#8217;s a lot of community and buzz around AVR including (and possibly thanks to) the Arduino. The full bells and whistle Arduino boards usually over $30, but that&#8217;s for quick and dirty prototyping. Less convenient options are available that drastically reduce the price if that&#8217;s a concern for you.</p>
<p>I never explicitly disabled it&#8230; I just unchecked the option to require logins to post comments. If you know how to enable both, let me know how (I&#8217;m pretty new to Wordpress) and I&#8217;ll set it up.</p>
<p>Custom PCB&#8217;s aren&#8217;t that expensive if you look in the right places. <a href="http://www.batchpcb.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.batchpcb.com</a> will do it for $2.50 per square inch but have a lengthy wait time. <a href="http://www.expresspcb.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.expresspcb.com</a> is $51 for three boards, and have a much faster turnaround. For a single prototype, that&#8217;s not horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.bretkuhns.com/blog/2010/01/8-bits-of-processing-goodness/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I am sure it is 6 to one, half dozen to another. Probably should look at using an arduino board though. That way I could bounce stuff off you. Sometimes it is just easier to talk to somebody else doing it.

I don&#039;t know how many do, but I like it. Also, you do have it disabled :)

Getting PCBs printed ain&#039;t going to be cheap bud. Not unless you order like 1000 of them. How big of a board are you looking at? I&#039;d consider making the template up and etching them yourself. That will be many times cheaper in the short term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I am sure it is 6 to one, half dozen to another. Probably should look at using an arduino board though. That way I could bounce stuff off you. Sometimes it is just easier to talk to somebody else doing it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how many do, but I like it. Also, you do have it disabled :)</p>
<p>Getting PCBs printed ain&#8217;t going to be cheap bud. Not unless you order like 1000 of them. How big of a board are you looking at? I&#8217;d consider making the template up and etching them yourself. That will be many times cheaper in the short term.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret Kuhns</title>
		<link>http://www.bretkuhns.com/blog/2010/01/8-bits-of-processing-goodness/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret Kuhns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at a comparable chip level, you can get an ATMega328p with the Arduino bootloader for $3-4. The full Arduino board just makes it simple to program and prototype with. Within minutes of receiving the board, I was already running code to blink LEDs. Once I get a stable prototype running, I intend to ditch the standard Arduino package and get my own PCB printed and use an SMD ATMega328 which should cut both cost and size of the hardware significantly.

I threw the Meta widget up for you, I didn&#039;t realize people actually like to register for blogs :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at a comparable chip level, you can get an ATMega328p with the Arduino bootloader for $3-4. The full Arduino board just makes it simple to program and prototype with. Within minutes of receiving the board, I was already running code to blink LEDs. Once I get a stable prototype running, I intend to ditch the standard Arduino package and get my own PCB printed and use an SMD ATMega328 which should cut both cost and size of the hardware significantly.</p>
<p>I threw the Meta widget up for you, I didn&#8217;t realize people actually like to register for blogs :-P</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.bretkuhns.com/blog/2010/01/8-bits-of-processing-goodness/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny story, definitely looking at a PIC uC. http://81.134.141.187/epages/Store.storefront/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Store.TechSupplies/Products/AXE007M

I mean right now all I care about is one in and one out. Code is really stupid simple from what I have seen. Chips are pretty cheap too. I can get one for about 1/4 of the cheapest Arduino. Not that there is anything wrong with those. The UAV project looks stupid cool actually.

The no preview might be the theme. As far as the registration all you have to do is throw the meta block on the sidebar. I could probably just browse to the log-in/register url, but I am lazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny story, definitely looking at a PIC uC. <a href="http://81.134.141.187/epages/Store.storefront/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Store.TechSupplies/Products/AXE007M" rel="nofollow">http://81.134.141.187/epages/Store.storefront/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Store.TechSupplies/Products/AXE007M</a></p>
<p>I mean right now all I care about is one in and one out. Code is really stupid simple from what I have seen. Chips are pretty cheap too. I can get one for about 1/4 of the cheapest Arduino. Not that there is anything wrong with those. The UAV project looks stupid cool actually.</p>
<p>The no preview might be the theme. As far as the registration all you have to do is throw the meta block on the sidebar. I could probably just browse to the log-in/register url, but I am lazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret Kuhns</title>
		<link>http://www.bretkuhns.com/blog/2010/01/8-bits-of-processing-goodness/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret Kuhns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ben, yeah, your wife showed me a Nerd Kits project for pulling OBD data off a car. I&#039;ll probably be working off that project quite a bit when it comes time for it (I&#039;m concerned with GPS and acceleration first, anything further is just icing). What uC/platform are you working with? I started looking into PIC stuff, but the learning curve was more than I felt like bothering with. Arduino/AVR was so much easier to dive into.

No idea why you can&#039;t preview, maybe it&#039;s the theme I&#039;m using. I never specifically disabled registration, I just don&#039;t require it since I hate having to register on blogs just to post comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ben, yeah, your wife showed me a Nerd Kits project for pulling OBD data off a car. I&#8217;ll probably be working off that project quite a bit when it comes time for it (I&#8217;m concerned with GPS and acceleration first, anything further is just icing). What uC/platform are you working with? I started looking into PIC stuff, but the learning curve was more than I felt like bothering with. Arduino/AVR was so much easier to dive into.</p>
<p>No idea why you can&#8217;t preview, maybe it&#8217;s the theme I&#8217;m using. I never specifically disabled registration, I just don&#8217;t require it since I hate having to register on blogs just to post comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.bretkuhns.com/blog/2010/01/8-bits-of-processing-goodness/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you looked at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nerdkits.com/kits/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nerd Kits&lt;/a&gt;? They have some good info and stuff on there, and some decent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nerdkits.com/videos/obdii/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;videos&lt;/a&gt;.

I have a couple projects I want to look into, on involves a uC and some RFID stuff. I just need to find some time to play with it!

Btw, how come nobody can register and there is no preview for the comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked at <a href="http://www.nerdkits.com/kits/" rel="nofollow">Nerd Kits</a>? They have some good info and stuff on there, and some decent <a href="http://www.nerdkits.com/videos/obdii/" rel="nofollow">videos</a>.</p>
<p>I have a couple projects I want to look into, on involves a uC and some RFID stuff. I just need to find some time to play with it!</p>
<p>Btw, how come nobody can register and there is no preview for the comments?</p>
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